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		<title>By: Fuksmoothwall</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-67536</link>
		<dc:creator>Fuksmoothwall</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 May 2010 19:40:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I ran it for a while, but now i boycott it! </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I ran it for a while, but now i boycott it!</p>
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		<title>By: Nigel Fenton</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-66358</link>
		<dc:creator>Nigel Fenton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Dec 2009 19:02:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description> 
 
wow a few names from the past !! i wondered what had happened to you ..i hope all went well 
 
Nigel </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>wow a few names from the past !! i wondered what had happened to you ..i hope all went well </p>
<p>Nigel</p>
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		<title>By: t.o.</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65695</link>
		<dc:creator>t.o.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Sep 2008 13:54:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Was wondering what happen to you. Sorry to hear it too dude. i have finally moved on as well. It started with me on swe2 when I loaded it up and started using it &quot;it was a great firewall/router&quot; ans 2.0 had what 3.0 does not have. I started working on a gui that would make 2.0 look a lot better than ever before. I still use the code that i started in other projects. I also had to do a total over haul on the code to just get it to work with 3.0 so I build a script to do that and for smoothie 2-3 I still have friends (the same ones that I had to convince to use smoothie in the first place) using my gui and they absolutely love them

I also  was very upset about the gates that are up now. i really just don&#039;t understand them for the admin guide I liked the 2.0 version a lot better it had alot more information in it as for the users guide it is just horrible. i now use ipcop &quot;would love for some one to start smoobuntu I know I would use it sinse my whole house is ubuntu anyway infact would be nice to have a DEB for the server ed. to turn it into smoobunbtu... Have a Great smoothwall free day dude.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Was wondering what happen to you. Sorry to hear it too dude. i have finally moved on as well. It started with me on swe2 when I loaded it up and started using it &#8220;it was a great firewall/router&#8221; ans 2.0 had what 3.0 does not have. I started working on a gui that would make 2.0 look a lot better than ever before. I still use the code that i started in other projects. I also had to do a total over haul on the code to just get it to work with 3.0 so I build a script to do that and for smoothie 2-3 I still have friends (the same ones that I had to convince to use smoothie in the first place) using my gui and they absolutely love them</p>
<p>I also  was very upset about the gates that are up now. i really just don&#8217;t understand them for the admin guide I liked the 2.0 version a lot better it had alot more information in it as for the users guide it is just horrible. i now use ipcop &#8220;would love for some one to start smoobuntu I know I would use it sinse my whole house is ubuntu anyway infact would be nice to have a DEB for the server ed. to turn it into smoobunbtu&#8230; Have a Great smoothwall free day dude.</p>
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		<title>By: neuro</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65246</link>
		<dc:creator>neuro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 10:53:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Statchew,

Neuro, &lt;a href=&quot;http://neuro.me.uk/me/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;short for Neuromancer&lt;/a&gt; :)

I didn&#039;t do what you did, and this wasn&#039;t a job; it was a volunteer project nominally separate from the company I worked for from 2001 to 2004.  I decided to quit the project for the reasons above in my post, not to hold a grudge (which I don&#039;t), but because there&#039;s no point in hanging around something you&#039;re not enjoying, pure and simple.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Statchew,</p>
<p>Neuro, <a href="http://neuro.me.uk/me/" rel="nofollow">short for Neuromancer</a> <img src='http://neuro.me.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t do what you did, and this wasn&#8217;t a job; it was a volunteer project nominally separate from the company I worked for from 2001 to 2004.  I decided to quit the project for the reasons above in my post, not to hold a grudge (which I don&#8217;t), but because there&#8217;s no point in hanging around something you&#8217;re not enjoying, pure and simple.</p>
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		<title>By: Statchew</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65245</link>
		<dc:creator>Statchew</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2008 10:25:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neuro....... short for Neurotic? 
Statchew....... stiff and unyielding.

I spent 20yrs developing and implementing training courses for
heavy earthmoving operators in mining and construction.
In 2000 the company I worked for sold out to a larger company.
I was the first casualty ... turned up for work Monday to be informed 
that my position was being taken over by a snotty nosed brat straight
from university.. a twit who had never even sat in the saddle of large
machinery.
Did I have a big dummy spit? You bet I did?
Before leaving I downloaded ALL my forms, documents, training
manuals, etc. etc. Then completely erased the HDD by filling it with
zeros seventeen times.
At the time it gave me great satisfaction.
Some months later, during what had become a regular Friday night
booze-up at the local pub, I overheard a remark by an old codger,
which made me realise that I was being totally selfish, thinking only
of how I had been hurt.
On the grapevine I had heard that the &quot;brat&quot; was having problems.
Swallowing what bit of pride I had left, I contacted the company and
offered to do some casual work for them to assist the youngster in
his endeavours. That was the turning point in my life. That was when
I woke up to the fact that there is no &quot;i&quot; in &quot;us&quot;.
Sure, it was a big comedown from being the boss-cocky, but I now
do casual work for several companies, and am glad to be able to
assist the young ones as they move up the ladder.
Holding a grudge does no-one any good.

Statchew   a semi-retired Australian workplace trainer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neuro&#8230;&#8230;. short for Neurotic?<br />
Statchew&#8230;&#8230;. stiff and unyielding.</p>
<p>I spent 20yrs developing and implementing training courses for<br />
heavy earthmoving operators in mining and construction.<br />
In 2000 the company I worked for sold out to a larger company.<br />
I was the first casualty &#8230; turned up for work Monday to be informed<br />
that my position was being taken over by a snotty nosed brat straight<br />
from university.. a twit who had never even sat in the saddle of large<br />
machinery.<br />
Did I have a big dummy spit? You bet I did?<br />
Before leaving I downloaded ALL my forms, documents, training<br />
manuals, etc. etc. Then completely erased the HDD by filling it with<br />
zeros seventeen times.<br />
At the time it gave me great satisfaction.<br />
Some months later, during what had become a regular Friday night<br />
booze-up at the local pub, I overheard a remark by an old codger,<br />
which made me realise that I was being totally selfish, thinking only<br />
of how I had been hurt.<br />
On the grapevine I had heard that the &#8220;brat&#8221; was having problems.<br />
Swallowing what bit of pride I had left, I contacted the company and<br />
offered to do some casual work for them to assist the youngster in<br />
his endeavours. That was the turning point in my life. That was when<br />
I woke up to the fact that there is no &#8220;i&#8221; in &#8220;us&#8221;.<br />
Sure, it was a big comedown from being the boss-cocky, but I now<br />
do casual work for several companies, and am glad to be able to<br />
assist the young ones as they move up the ladder.<br />
Holding a grudge does no-one any good.</p>
<p>Statchew   a semi-retired Australian workplace trainer.</p>
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		<title>By: rudy</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65142</link>
		<dc:creator>rudy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 10 Apr 2008 12:01:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ....... i don&#039;t know you in person or ever talked to you directly. but i know you&#039;ve given so much to the smoothie. Life oges on man :)

Somehow they make smoothie even more difficult to get. With all the gates and everything :(

I wish you all the best man!!!!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8230;&#8230;. i don&#8217;t know you in person or ever talked to you directly. but i know you&#8217;ve given so much to the smoothie. Life oges on man <img src='http://neuro.me.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Somehow they make smoothie even more difficult to get. With all the gates and everything <img src='http://neuro.me.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_sad.gif' alt=':(' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I wish you all the best man!!!!!</p>
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		<title>By: Hilton Travis</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65106</link>
		<dc:creator>Hilton Travis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:38:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There&#039;s no need to worry about a SmoothWall replacement - as has been mentioned, the word &quot;out there&quot; is IPCop, not SmoothWall.  It seems to have lost a lot of the cred it had back in the day.  I&#039;m glad I&#039;m no longer involved with it, and Lawrence was a big, big factor in my walking away.

Another quite food firewall/router project is m0n0wall/pfSense.

And then there&#039;s Untangle.  Untangle is now what SmoothWall should have been.  Untangle is great.  SmoothWall was, once.  Quite some time back.

I&#039;m glad that you&#039;ve moved on to bigger and better things, Neuro.  I hope you can also, like the rest of us, get the bitter aftertaste of SmoothWall and especially SmoothWall Limited out of your mouth - I know a few of us did it by tasting better products and better projects, which can only be good for you and OSS in general.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There&#8217;s no need to worry about a SmoothWall replacement &#8211; as has been mentioned, the word &#8220;out there&#8221; is IPCop, not SmoothWall.  It seems to have lost a lot of the cred it had back in the day.  I&#8217;m glad I&#8217;m no longer involved with it, and Lawrence was a big, big factor in my walking away.</p>
<p>Another quite food firewall/router project is m0n0wall/pfSense.</p>
<p>And then there&#8217;s Untangle.  Untangle is now what SmoothWall should have been.  Untangle is great.  SmoothWall was, once.  Quite some time back.</p>
<p>I&#8217;m glad that you&#8217;ve moved on to bigger and better things, Neuro.  I hope you can also, like the rest of us, get the bitter aftertaste of SmoothWall and especially SmoothWall Limited out of your mouth &#8211; I know a few of us did it by tasting better products and better projects, which can only be good for you and OSS in general.</p>
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		<title>By: Becca</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65105</link>
		<dc:creator>Becca</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 19:04:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neuro

It has been a while, my friend.  I can&#039;t believe that you were treated the way you were.  You certainly didn&#039;t deserve to be downgraded to basically &quot;helpdesk software&quot;.  You gave many good years to SmoothWall, both the GPL version and the corporate version.  I am sorry that they didn&#039;t value your contribution more.

I hope you will be valued by Linden Labs.  You deserve it.  You are talented and I learned a lot from you.  All my best.  And Bill sends his best as well.

B</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neuro</p>
<p>It has been a while, my friend.  I can&#8217;t believe that you were treated the way you were.  You certainly didn&#8217;t deserve to be downgraded to basically &#8220;helpdesk software&#8221;.  You gave many good years to SmoothWall, both the GPL version and the corporate version.  I am sorry that they didn&#8217;t value your contribution more.</p>
<p>I hope you will be valued by Linden Labs.  You deserve it.  You are talented and I learned a lot from you.  All my best.  And Bill sends his best as well.</p>
<p>B</p>
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		<title>By: Dave Kitchens</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65104</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave Kitchens</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 17:35:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Neuro, we never had a chance to talk directly back then but I can say that I loved the work you did and it is certainly a shame to be discounted like you have been recently. I do not blame you one bit for leaving what should have been a great company. 

BTW, go get M0n0wall... its does everything for free. :-) I left Smoothy and found m0n0wall, never looked back since... Hey! M0n0wall could use a fresh interface! :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Neuro, we never had a chance to talk directly back then but I can say that I loved the work you did and it is certainly a shame to be discounted like you have been recently. I do not blame you one bit for leaving what should have been a great company. </p>
<p>BTW, go get M0n0wall&#8230; its does everything for free. <img src='http://neuro.me.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' />  I left Smoothy and found m0n0wall, never looked back since&#8230; Hey! M0n0wall could use a fresh interface! <img src='http://neuro.me.uk/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Wonder if Lawrence&#8217;s ears are burning ? : : Dicks Diary</title>
		<link>http://neuro.me.uk/2008/03/05/no-more-smoothwall-for-me/comment-page-1/#comment-65102</link>
		<dc:creator>Wonder if Lawrence&#8217;s ears are burning ? : : Dicks Diary</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:42:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] / dev testing team who ran SmoothWall from inception through Caveonet and then SmoothWall to 2003 just commented on an article on Neuro&#8217;s blog. The only person missing from the comments list is Lawrence who the comments are aimed at. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] / dev testing team who ran SmoothWall from inception through Caveonet and then SmoothWall to 2003 just commented on an article on Neuro&#8217;s blog. The only person missing from the comments list is Lawrence who the comments are aimed at. [...]</p>
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